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		<title>Comment on Luther on Ministerial Praise and Criticism by logan45</title>
		<link>http://ecclesiophilist.com/2011/07/06/luther-on-ministerial-praise-and-criticism/#comment-179</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2011 15:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amen brother, all things to the glory of God! Boast in Christ alone for we are dust.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen brother, all things to the glory of God! Boast in Christ alone for we are dust.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Great Marriage Seminar with Dr. Paul Tripp by Jera</title>
		<link>http://ecclesiophilist.com/2008/04/08/great-marriage-seminar-with-dr-paul-tripp/#comment-167</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jera]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2011 06:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The forum is a birthger place thanks to your posts. Thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The forum is a birthger place thanks to your posts. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Packer on Penal Substitution by Nick</title>
		<link>http://ecclesiophilist.com/2011/04/22/packer-on-penal-substitution/#comment-160</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Apr 2011 17:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Kelly, 

I have read Pierced for Our Transgressions, but they too often selectively cite whatever passage suits them, and don&#039;t always take into consideration the context of the Biblical passages they quote. Also, they never examined the Biblical term &quot;Atonement&quot; in any meaningful way. My claim is that when we examine every occurrence of the Biblical term &quot;Atonement,&quot; there is not a single case where Penal Substitution is clearly being taught - and I speak as objectively as I can when I say that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kelly, </p>
<p>I have read Pierced for Our Transgressions, but they too often selectively cite whatever passage suits them, and don&#8217;t always take into consideration the context of the Biblical passages they quote. Also, they never examined the Biblical term &#8220;Atonement&#8221; in any meaningful way. My claim is that when we examine every occurrence of the Biblical term &#8220;Atonement,&#8221; there is not a single case where Penal Substitution is clearly being taught &#8211; and I speak as objectively as I can when I say that.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Packer on Penal Substitution by krandolph</title>
		<link>http://ecclesiophilist.com/2011/04/22/packer-on-penal-substitution/#comment-158</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[krandolph]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2011 18:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nick,
I can see we are at different places in our understanding of the atonement having read your blog post. I believe that you make some valid points about the ransom/redemption theme in the Old Testament. This is certainly one aspect of the atoning work of Christ. Yet, I think you go too far in suggesting that there is no basis for a penal substitution aspect of the atonement. Having read the comment section of your blog post, many of the passages/arguments I would offer have already been made. I believe Leon Morris has made an excellent case for penal substitution in his &lt;em&gt;Apostolic Preaching of the Cross&lt;/em&gt;, as well as Jeffrey, Ovey, and Sach in &lt;em&gt;Pierced for Our Transgressions&lt;/em&gt;. 

Kelly Randolph]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick,<br />
I can see we are at different places in our understanding of the atonement having read your blog post. I believe that you make some valid points about the ransom/redemption theme in the Old Testament. This is certainly one aspect of the atoning work of Christ. Yet, I think you go too far in suggesting that there is no basis for a penal substitution aspect of the atonement. Having read the comment section of your blog post, many of the passages/arguments I would offer have already been made. I believe Leon Morris has made an excellent case for penal substitution in his <em>Apostolic Preaching of the Cross</em>, as well as Jeffrey, Ovey, and Sach in <em>Pierced for Our Transgressions</em>. </p>
<p>Kelly Randolph</p>
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		<title>Comment on Packer on Penal Substitution by Nick</title>
		<link>http://ecclesiophilist.com/2011/04/22/packer-on-penal-substitution/#comment-157</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2011 02:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unfortunately, Packer is very wrong about his views on Penal Substitution, &lt;a href=&quot;http://catholicnick.blogspot.com/2010/07/atonement-according-to-scripture-more.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; this Article shows why Penal Substitution is flatly incompatible with Scripture by violating the very definition of Atonement.&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, Packer is very wrong about his views on Penal Substitution, <a href="http://catholicnick.blogspot.com/2010/07/atonement-according-to-scripture-more.html" rel="nofollow"> this Article shows why Penal Substitution is flatly incompatible with Scripture by violating the very definition of Atonement.</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on They Have Moses and the Prophets&#8230; by Aaron Fenlason</title>
		<link>http://ecclesiophilist.com/2011/03/28/they-have-moses-and-the-prophets/#comment-153</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aaron Fenlason]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Apr 2011 01:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This reminds me of 2 Peter as well. Peter has just argued that he and the other disciples did not follow cleverly devised myths when they preached the gospel, but were eyewitnesses of Christ&#039;s majesty, referring to the Transfiguration (1:16-18). He then says, &quot;And we have something more sure&quot; (v. 19). More sure than seeing the Transfiguration first hand? More sure than beholding with your own eyes the unveiled majesty of the Lord of Life? More sure than witnessing the divine conference between Christ and the primary figures of my people&#039;s faith? What in the world can be MORE SURE? Answer: &quot;the prophetic word, to which you will do well to pay attention.&quot; If Peter looked back at the Transfiguration and was able to say that the Bible is a more certain and more reliable foundation for my faith that that, then who am I to elevate my experience above what God has declared in that word? Oh, that the church would grasp this truth!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reminds me of 2 Peter as well. Peter has just argued that he and the other disciples did not follow cleverly devised myths when they preached the gospel, but were eyewitnesses of Christ&#8217;s majesty, referring to the Transfiguration (1:16-18). He then says, &#8220;And we have something more sure&#8221; (v. 19). More sure than seeing the Transfiguration first hand? More sure than beholding with your own eyes the unveiled majesty of the Lord of Life? More sure than witnessing the divine conference between Christ and the primary figures of my people&#8217;s faith? What in the world can be MORE SURE? Answer: &#8220;the prophetic word, to which you will do well to pay attention.&#8221; If Peter looked back at the Transfiguration and was able to say that the Bible is a more certain and more reliable foundation for my faith that that, then who am I to elevate my experience above what God has declared in that word? Oh, that the church would grasp this truth!</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Real Survivor Vanuatu by Aaron Fenlason</title>
		<link>http://ecclesiophilist.com/2011/03/26/a-real-survivor-vanuatu/#comment-152</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aaron Fenlason]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Apr 2011 01:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You will have to let me know what you think. I am finishing up The Life of Adoniram Judson now and planning on David Livingstone next.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You will have to let me know what you think. I am finishing up The Life of Adoniram Judson now and planning on David Livingstone next.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Serious Messages Packaged in Silly Slogans by Bobbie Rohling</title>
		<link>http://ecclesiophilist.com/2011/02/14/serious-messages-packaged-in-silly-slogans/#comment-145</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bobbie Rohling]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Feb 2011 21:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for this......I was beginning to think I was losing my sanity in the midst of all the gastly &quot;cultural relevance&quot; I&#039;ve been assaulted with lately by church billboards and news programs. What happened to the &quot;relevancy&quot; of God&#039;s Word?? It does speak to each and every sin issue we might struggle with, but unfortunately we have too many worldly churches trying not to confront sin (or sinners for that matter) but rather be &quot;friends&quot; with the world in hopes that somehow their Christianity (weak as it is) will rub off. 
Thank you for giving us the Truth of God&#039;s Word and the full weight of what that entails at times. We do get humbled, rebuked, taught and encouraged by God&#039;s Word. Why on earth would we need anything more than that? It is either sufficient or it isn&#039;t!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this&#8230;&#8230;I was beginning to think I was losing my sanity in the midst of all the gastly &#8220;cultural relevance&#8221; I&#8217;ve been assaulted with lately by church billboards and news programs. What happened to the &#8220;relevancy&#8221; of God&#8217;s Word?? It does speak to each and every sin issue we might struggle with, but unfortunately we have too many worldly churches trying not to confront sin (or sinners for that matter) but rather be &#8220;friends&#8221; with the world in hopes that somehow their Christianity (weak as it is) will rub off.<br />
Thank you for giving us the Truth of God&#8217;s Word and the full weight of what that entails at times. We do get humbled, rebuked, taught and encouraged by God&#8217;s Word. Why on earth would we need anything more than that? It is either sufficient or it isn&#8217;t!!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Word to Spiritual Watchdogs by Robb</title>
		<link>http://ecclesiophilist.com/2011/01/17/a-word-to-spiritual-watchdogs/#comment-144</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 16:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good thoughts, Kelly. I usually find people that claim to love the truth but fail to love people do not really love the truth either. They often love being right. They love the feeling of superiority over those who are so inferior in their understanding. Or they love safety. The safety their paradigm uninterrupted provides. Such people are usually afraid, and to mask their fear they masquerade as truth-lovers. I wonder how many people who claim to love the truth but who are callous to the needs and concerns of others are acting from a position of fear rather than faith.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good thoughts, Kelly. I usually find people that claim to love the truth but fail to love people do not really love the truth either. They often love being right. They love the feeling of superiority over those who are so inferior in their understanding. Or they love safety. The safety their paradigm uninterrupted provides. Such people are usually afraid, and to mask their fear they masquerade as truth-lovers. I wonder how many people who claim to love the truth but who are callous to the needs and concerns of others are acting from a position of fear rather than faith.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Candy Land Christianity by Patricia Dickson</title>
		<link>http://ecclesiophilist.com/2006/11/15/candy-land-christianity/#comment-132</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patricia Dickson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 08:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have witnessed firsthand the destruction that can be caused by Candy Land Preaching. My husband was having an affair and standing on the premise that &quot;God wants me to be happy&quot;. He was listening to the ramblings of Joel Osteen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have witnessed firsthand the destruction that can be caused by Candy Land Preaching. My husband was having an affair and standing on the premise that &#8220;God wants me to be happy&#8221;. He was listening to the ramblings of Joel Osteen.</p>
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